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John I don't think Gravel or any of the Strange books would be to your taste at all. Think of it like if Grant Morrison did a cross of The Invisibles, Hellblazer and a dash of the UK SAS. When you go through Strange Kiss and Stranger Kisses there are some really bizzare things in there which could only fit into an invisibles type world.

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John I don't think Gravel or any of the Strange books would be to your taste at all. Think of it like if Grant Morrison did a cross of The Invisibles, Hellblazer and a dash of the UK SAS. When you go through Strange Kiss and Stranger Kisses there are some really bizzare things in there which could only fit into an invisibles type world.

Well, I'm liking the Gravel series so far, and am not getting an "Invisibles" vibe off of it. Hopefully it won't be too pronounced on the earlier GNs, as I did not care overly much for the Invisibles.....

I like Hellblazer/SAS, though, that seems more like what I've seen in the Gravel series.....

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John I don't think Gravel or any of the Strange books would be to your taste at all. Think of it like if Grant Morrison did a cross of The Invisibles, Hellblazer and a dash of the UK SAS. When you go through Strange Kiss and Stranger Kisses there are some really bizzare things in there which could only fit into an invisibles type world.

Yeah, I kind of figured that it wasn't the right kind of title for me. Good to have that confirmed.

Good episode, fellows. I haven't read any of the books you spotlighted. But I would have to agree, there needs to be more introduction. I don't think that the adage "every comic is somebody's first" is a bad one to follow. Especially where a #1 issue is involved. I could easily see that X book having been a first for me as a kid.

Even so much as those recap pages, if people who are familiar don't want to trudge through forced exposition. I mean you hear people saying they jumped into a comic, and there would be a part going on that they had no idea what was happening, but an editor's note would lead them to another comic. And even then, it wasn't that the whole issue was a mess of confusion, just that bit to get you following the trail.

I am going to strongly consider Anna Mercury in this month's Previews. I had been fighting getting it for awhile. It wasn't going to be enough to go off the basis that I like redheads (that would be a whole new comics budget in and of itself). I agree with everything you said about Warren Ellis. The man knows his way around a good story. I couldn't believe it when reading Fell. What a bargain that book is.

Keep 'em coming guys. The shows are always entertaining.

jkarguth wrote:Good episode, fellows. I haven't read any of the books you spotlighted. But I would have to agree, there needs to be more introduction. I don't think that the adage "every comic is somebody's first" is a bad one to follow. Especially where a #1 issue is involved. I could easily see that X book having been a first for me as a kid.

One of the big problems with too many comic books these days is that they simply aren't accessible stories. I don't think it is too much to ask that the creators help jog our memories each issue and subtly remind us of what happened before. I grow frustrated with creators that write stories with the expectation that I have memorized all of the preceding chapters of the current storyline.

jkarguth wrote:Even so much as those recap pages, if people who are familiar don't want to trudge through forced exposition. I mean you hear people saying they jumped into a comic, and there would be a part going on that they had no idea what was happening, but an editor's note would lead them to another comic. And even then, it wasn't that the whole issue was a mess of confusion, just that bit to get you following the trail.

I'm not a big fan of the recap page. All of that should be in the story, not in a text piece preceding it. Every once in a while I'll notice a little story point that the writer tries to sneak into the recap page. Ideally the stories are accessible enough that a recap page isn't needed. At least that was how it was back when I first started reading comics...

I'll differ with John's opinion re: Recap pages --> I like them.

Now, I will agree with John that I like information to be embedded into the story, but I'm not opposed to recap pages per se. I'll take them when provided, and often find them useful to bring me back up to speed after time time lapse & many intervening comics since I read the last story/issue.

JLAFan wrote:I'll differ with John's opinion re: Recap pages --> I like them.

Now, I will agree with John that I like information to be embedded into the story, but I'm not opposed to recap pages per se. I'll take them when provided, and often find them useful to bring me back up to speed after time time lapse & many intervening comics since I read the last story/issue.

Okay, that is fair. I mean, I completely agree that they do serve a purpose and can be helpful. I guess it is more a matter that I dislike the fact that the recap pages are needed more than actually disliking the recap page. I just liked it better when you could open up a comic book and immediate get into the story on the first page...