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BobBretall wrote:
Gilgabob wrote:Color me annoyed that I need to get Green Lantern Annual in order to get the last chapter of the Black Hand storyline currently running in the regular Green Lantern title. I don't consider Annuals to be sequential within the regular title and I don't want to buy the annual.
Sometimes they are & sometimes they're not.

I generally read the solicits (for content & team) and make a decision on a case-by-case basis.

On the Marvel side, I decided to skip the Annuals with an Alan Davis Clandestine story that crossed over between (I think) Fantastic Four, Daredevil, & Wolverine. This seemed to not have anything to do with the normal stories & I'm not a huge ClanDestine fan.

But the GL Annual was solicited as bringing the Black Hand stuff to closure, plus setting up the next big thing in GL PLUS having art by Ethan van Sciver. Easy choice for me to get this one.

On the other hand, even though I got Superman & Action, the solicits led me to believe I could easily skip those annuals.
Even though the the solicit for the annual may have said that the Black Hand storyline concluded in the annual, the fact is I missed it. I usually don't buy annuals becuase I have found them to be full of filler with weak story and art. It sounds like they are better now but I've kinda trained myself to ignore annuals as a general rule.

I guess I'm just naive to think the story I'm reading will continue in the next issue of the series. Trust me, I'm not losing sleep over it but these types of things get tiresome. I don't happen to live very close to a shop so if I can't just pop in to the LCS to pick it up.
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DC confirmed the news that Ivan Reis and Joe Prado will be the new art team on JL.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/meet-the ... istic-team

I don't know who will the new art team for Aquaman, but it sounds like Aquaman and JL will have a crossover starting in December and maybe that Ivan is drawing the whole crossover because they mentioned that he will be drawing the Throne of Atlantis storyline.
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JohnMayo wrote: I'd also appreciate any help people would like to offer collecting data for the New 52 diagram. Specifically, I'd like to include in the diagram any/all footnote references and explicit reading order notes included in the comics.
John/Bob - I heard you on the previews episode. I should have mentioned that I was planning on starting to go through some of the 52 comics this weekend to give you some information. Last weekend was the Baltimore Comic Con so I was busy.

I thought I start with Superman, Teen Titans, Superboy because those titles seem to have the most tie-ins or references.
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HassanT wrote:
JohnMayo wrote: I'd also appreciate any help people would like to offer collecting data for the New 52 diagram. Specifically, I'd like to include in the diagram any/all footnote references and explicit reading order notes included in the comics.
John/Bob - I heard you on the previews episode. I should have mentioned that I was planning on starting to go through some of the 52 comics this weekend to give you some information. Last weekend was the Baltimore Comic Con so I was busy.

I thought I start with Superman, Teen Titans, Superboy because those titles seem to have the most tie-ins or references.
Great. I appreciate the help on the diagramming project.
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And DC just solicited the Court of Owls collected edition for the December solicits - per my question from earlier. Looks like it'll be the "next" Batman HC/trade. Either way, it's good to be psychic sometimes. :)
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I've updated the New 52 chart:

http://www.comicbookpage.com/ForumImage ... 120912.png

The 23.9 Mb file is 14139 x 12531 pixels.

Open it in another browser window. In Firefox, it will load zoomed out. If you click on , it will zoom to full size and you can move around using the browser scroll bars.
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And here is a more condensed view of the shipping weeks for the New 52:

http://www.comicbookpage.com/ForumImage ... 120912.png

That 22 Mb file is 2872 x 11413 pixels.
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Update timeline chart with crossovers as of 2012-09-19:

http://www.comicbookpage.com/ForumImage ... 120919.png

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Update shipping week chart as of 2012-09-19:

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Now that I've cleaned up the images, I need to clean up the code and automate grabbing the cover images...
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Does anyone know where Diogenes Neves is going to? Is he off Demon Knights for the time being? According to DC he is one of 6 pencilers on the Flash Annual (I will pass on 6 pencilers on one issue unless it is hundreds of pages). Anyone reading that annual, please chime in and let me know how it worked. I would imagine they would have to either copy each other's style or having a bunch of narrative threads going that each warrant a different penciller.

I really liked him and was hoping he was going to stay on Demon Knights. I guess it helps sales to move artists around but for me it usually leads to me dropping the old title.
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LA Rabbit wrote: According to DC he is one of 6 pencilers on the Flash Annual (I will pass on 6 pencilers on one issue unless it is hundreds of pages). Anyone reading that annual, please chime in and let me know how it worked.
It was pretty mediocre, IMO.

It came out Aug 29th, so I read it a few weeks ago & would be hard-pressed to tell you now what went on in it other than it had a bunch of Flash rogues in it.
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BobBretall wrote: It was pretty mediocre, IMO.

It came out Aug 29th, so I read it a few weeks ago & would be hard-pressed to tell you now what went on in it other than it had a bunch of Flash rogues in it.
Wow, that was awhile back. For some reason, the DC website made it seem like it was more recent. Looks like I didn't miss anything but at least the 6 penciller thing wasn't so bad to stay in your recollection.
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4 DC series bite the big one in the January solicits:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-comi ... tions.html
FRANKENSTEIN, AGENT OF S.H.A.D.E. #16
On sale JANUARY 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
• Don’t miss this final issue finale!
• Frankenstein and his team of misfit S.H.A.D.E. agents are sent in to stop a group of superpowered biological terrorists from detonating a
dirty bomb in Central City!
GRIFTER #16
On sale JANUARY 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
• The conspiracy surrounding Cole Cash has unraveled — and you won’t believe who stands at the center of it all!
BLUE BEETLE #16
On sale JANUARY 23 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
This final-issue epic leads into the new DCU series THRESHOLD!
• Blue Beetle is betrayed!
• What is “The Hunted”?
• The secrets of Sky Witness’s origin are revealed!
LEGION LOST #16
On sale JANUARY 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
• Superboy and The Ravagers guest-star!
• In order to save billions of lives, the Lost Legionnaires must decide if they are willing to sacrifice millions when they detonate a bomb that will destroy the alien machine from Daggor!
• Plus, more on the origin of Harvest!

Here's the new title being introduced coming out of Blue Beetle & the GL New Guardians Annual:
THRESHOLD #1
Written by KEITH GIFFEN
Art by TOM RANEY
Backup story art by SCOTT KOLINS
Cover by HOWARD PORTER and JOHN DELL
1:100 Variant cover by KENNETH ROCAFORT
On sale JANUARY 16 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for more information.
• Introducing THE HUNTED, spinning directly out of this month’s GREEN LANTERN: NEW GUARDIANS ANNUAL #1!
• Featuring the New 52 gallery of space heroes: The Star Rovers, Star Hawkins, Space Cabbie, Tom Tomorrow, Captain K’Rot, and Star Ranger!
• Also introducing Jediah Caul, a disgraced Green Lantern stripped of his power ring, who is hunted for sport on a televised reality show!•
• LARFLEEZE steals the spotlight in his first ongoing series of backup stories! What happens when Larfleeze, the ultimate hoarder, is robbed...of everything!
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I'm not surprised those titles are being retired. I predicted as much in my latest article on Comic Book Resources.
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BobBretall wrote:4 DC series bite the big one in the January solicits:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-comi ... tions.html
FRANKENSTEIN, AGENT OF S.H.A.D.E. #16
On sale JANUARY 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
• Don’t miss this final issue finale!
• Frankenstein and his team of misfit S.H.A.D.E. agents are sent in to stop a group of superpowered biological terrorists from detonating a
dirty bomb in Central City!
GRIFTER #16
On sale JANUARY 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
• The conspiracy surrounding Cole Cash has unraveled — and you won’t believe who stands at the center of it all!
BLUE BEETLE #16
On sale JANUARY 23 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
This final-issue epic leads into the new DCU series THRESHOLD!
• Blue Beetle is betrayed!
• What is “The Hunted”?
• The secrets of Sky Witness’s origin are revealed!
LEGION LOST #16
On sale JANUARY 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
• Superboy and The Ravagers guest-star!
• In order to save billions of lives, the Lost Legionnaires must decide if they are willing to sacrifice millions when they detonate a bomb that will destroy the alien machine from Daggor!
• Plus, more on the origin of Harvest!

Here's the new title being introduced coming out of Blue Beetle & the GL New Guardians Annual:
THRESHOLD #1
Written by KEITH GIFFEN
Art by TOM RANEY
Backup story art by SCOTT KOLINS
Cover by HOWARD PORTER and JOHN DELL
1:100 Variant cover by KENNETH ROCAFORT
On sale JANUARY 16 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for more information.
• Introducing THE HUNTED, spinning directly out of this month’s GREEN LANTERN: NEW GUARDIANS ANNUAL #1!
• Featuring the New 52 gallery of space heroes: The Star Rovers, Star Hawkins, Space Cabbie, Tom Tomorrow, Captain K’Rot, and Star Ranger!
• Also introducing Jediah Caul, a disgraced Green Lantern stripped of his power ring, who is hunted for sport on a televised reality show!•
• LARFLEEZE steals the spotlight in his first ongoing series of backup stories! What happens when Larfleeze, the ultimate hoarder, is robbed...of everything!
Out of the ones that are cancelled, I already dropped all but Frankenstein, which I really like. The same thing happened last time.

I might go back and pre-order the Blue Beetle issues because it leads into the new Threshold series.
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HassanT wrote: Out of the ones that are cancelled, I already dropped all but Frankenstein, which I really like. The same thing happened last time.
The only one of the cancelled books I was getting was Blue Beetle.

I picked up Frankenstein #13 because it was tied into Rotworld & it was pretty much unreadable (for me).
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