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This is for John Mayo.

The solicitations for JL 12 months ago and what is actually being released are different. The changes are:

No Shazam Backup

Jim Lee is the artist (along with 9 inkers!!!) for pages 1-28
Ivan Reis and Joe Prado artists for pages 29-30
David Finch artist for pages 31-33.

If I had to take a guess the David Finch pages are a teaser to the new JLA series.
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I don't think the league has to have ONLY A-listers, but it shouldn't be a ghetto of only b & c-listers either.

My favorite league incarnations have had a mix of major characters with some less know characters mixed in.

I don't recall any league lineup made up of all minor characters that I have loved.

I'm not saying this can't be good, but it's got an uphill battle.
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My problem with this line-up, and almost all comic super teams, is they realistically don't make sense.

Catwoman .... she's a burglar. How in the world is she going to help Martian Manhunter in anyway? I realize it's another body but still, she has no powers and not really any skill. You may as well invite any fighter from the local dojo to join the team.

It's like the Avengers movie. You have Thor and Hulk and Iron Man, and then a guy who shoots arrows [okay, I can buy this I guess] and then a girl with a gun.

Or even Batman in JL. Sure he's a good thinker, but it just bugs me that a guy in a suit is fighting with Superman and a Green Lantern. Those two should be good enough for almost anything shouldn't they? He should just stay in the cave and help out.

Bottom line, some characters just don't work in teams, at least for me.
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I think the theory is that Catwoman would be good if they needed stealth/burglary type of things.......however, since Martian Manhunter can become invisible and phase thru walls, it seems he invalidates any reason to have Catwoman.
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HassanT wrote:This is for John Mayo.

The solicitations for JL 12 months ago and what is actually being released are different. The changes are:

No Shazam Backup

Jim Lee is the artist (along with 9 inkers!!!) for pages 1-28
Ivan Reis and Joe Prado artists for pages 29-30
David Finch artist for pages 31-33.

If I had to take a guess the David Finch pages are a teaser to the new JLA series.
No Shazam backup? Bummer. I was looking forward to another installment of Billy Batson still not being Shazam yet. :roll:
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BobBretall wrote:I think the theory is that Catwoman would be good if they needed stealth/burglary type of things.......however, since Martian Manhunter can become invisible and phase thru walls, it seems he invalidates any reason to have Catwoman.
I was thinking the same thing.
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BobBretall wrote:I think the theory is that Catwoman would be good if they needed stealth/burglary type of things.......however, since Martian Manhunter can become invisible and phase thru walls, it seems he invalidates any reason to have Catwoman.
What if they had to steal something from a building on fire? :D
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BobBretall wrote:I don't think the league has to have ONLY A-listers, but it shouldn't be a ghetto of only b & c-listers either.

My favorite league incarnations have had a mix of major characters with some less know characters mixed in.

I don't recall any league lineup made up of all minor characters that I have loved.

I'm not saying this can't be good, but it's got an uphill battle.
I think this hits the nail on the head. I definitely like the A-Listers, but having some B's and C's to bounce off them in contrast is usually a good idea.

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ctowner1 wrote:
abysslord wrote:
JohnMayo wrote: What? You don't like Superman being able to read every medical book in five minutes and then doing emergency surgery using his X-Ray vision and super-sharp thumbnail?
I don't know old Superman stories, and I'm pretty sure you're kidding, but something tells me this actually happened in an old comic? :)
happened in the latest issue of Action! :shock:

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HassanT wrote:
BobBretall wrote:I think the theory is that Catwoman would be good if they needed stealth/burglary type of things.......however, since Martian Manhunter can become invisible and phase thru walls, it seems he invalidates any reason to have Catwoman.
What if they had to steal something from a building on fire? :D
Nice. I guess as long as Catwoman had on an asbestos catsuit then she could do the job in that highly specialized circumstance :-)
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JohnMayo wrote:
BobBretall wrote:I think the theory is that Catwoman would be good if they needed stealth/burglary type of things.......however, since Martian Manhunter can become invisible and phase thru walls, it seems he invalidates any reason to have Catwoman.
I was thinking the same thing.
What if they need a pair of breasts with ridiculous cleavage on the cover...?
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boshuda wrote:
JohnMayo wrote:
BobBretall wrote:I think the theory is that Catwoman would be good if they needed stealth/burglary type of things.......however, since Martian Manhunter can become invisible and phase thru walls, it seems he invalidates any reason to have Catwoman.
I was thinking the same thing.
What if they need a pair of breasts with ridiculous cleavage on the cover...?
I guess you missed that issue of Justice League Task Force...
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JohnMayo wrote:
boshuda wrote:
JohnMayo wrote: I was thinking the same thing.
What if they need a pair of breasts with ridiculous cleavage on the cover...?
I guess you missed that issue of Justice League Task Force...
Are you referring to this piece of the '90s?
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No cleavage. The book still needs Catwoman.
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boshuda wrote:
JohnMayo wrote:
boshuda wrote: What if they need a pair of breasts with ridiculous cleavage on the cover...?
I guess you missed that issue of Justice League Task Force...
Are you referring to this piece of the '90s?
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No cleavage. The book still needs Catwoman.
Yes. It might be poorly drawn but he was a she in that issue.
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boshuda wrote: I guess you missed that issue of Justice League Task Force...
Are you referring to this piece of the '90s?
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No cleavage. The book still needs Catwoman.
Interesting fact: I own the cover prelim sketch to this issue of JLT by Sal Velluto.

I have a bunch of JLT prelims, I should scan them in & post them.
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