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abysslord wrote:Btw, Mister Terrific says he's the third smartest .... are we supposed to know who is 1 and 2? or is that just a "humorous" statement.
Just things to think about:

1. Obviously both #1 and #2 are still alive since Mr. Terrific hasn't advanced.

2. Someone somewhere keeps up the stats on that. Who is this mysterious organization that keeps tabs on the smartest people list? 8)
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Superman as a true American - of, by, and for the people

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On Weekly Comics Spotlight #213 John feared new readers to Superman would be turned off from Action Comics. I'm a new reader and I liked it. It took those aspects of Superman that I don't like and turned them on their head. I always felt Superman was a symbol of much of what's wrong with the USA in that he enforces the status quo and fights for the oligarchs and the Military-Industrial Complex, rather than standing up for Truth, Justice, and The American Way (whatever the latter means).

I also viewed him as a Deus Ex Machina for the DC universe that ironically required his own Deus Ex Machina of Kryoptonite. Admittedly I haven't read much Superman so that was just my perception. In this he's fighting against the moneyed elite, and standing up for the people. The average Joe and Jane on the street are who he's standing up for, and it's great.
keith71_98 wrote:It week 2 of the podcasts, you guys gave a really favorable review of Mr. Terrific. I thought it was a really bad book and it's probably my least favorite book of the New 52. I felt it had some of the most artificial and forced racial dialogue I had ever seen and the art was a mess, mainly the wildly inconsistent faces.
I agree with all of that, but I also had a problem with the atheist statement. I am an atheist - I don't believe in any gods. The way his statement was presented actually makes him more likely to be an angry theist than an atheist. Considering how the rest of the book was written I'll assume the author simply failed to fully explore atheism and/or didn't explain the argument that may have been the basis for Mr. Terrific's statement. Suffering a personal tragedy can illustrate the problem of evil and eventually lead someone to true atheism. It's possible Mr. Terrific was giving us the shorthand of his transition. I fear this book will be a stereotypical portrayal of an atheist where he's only an 'atheist' because he hasn't seen the light. One of the most egregious and appropriate examples of this I can recall is Mel Gibson's character from that M. Knight Shyamalan monstrosity "Signs".
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boshuda wrote:I agree with all of that, but I also had a problem with the atheist statement. I am an atheist - I don't believe in any gods. The way his statement was presented actually makes him more likely to be an angry theist than an atheist. Considering how the rest of the book was written I'll assume the author simply failed to fully explore atheism and/or didn't explain the argument that may have been the basis for Mr. Terrific's statement. Suffering a personal tragedy can illustrate the problem of evil and eventually lead someone to true atheism. It's possible Mr. Terrific was giving us the shorthand of his transition. I fear this book will be a stereotypical portrayal of an atheist where he's only an 'atheist' because he hasn't seen the light. One of the most egregious and appropriate examples of this I can recall is Mel Gibson's character from that M. Knight Shyamalan monstrosity "Signs".
As a Christian I may not have the clearest and most structured view on "true atheism", but I don't think this book is going to paint athiests with any kind of stereotype. I think it was just so poorly written that things like athiesm, race, and liberal politics were thrown in to show who he was but without any real depth.
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Marc Benardin has been confrimed as new Static Shock writer

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/10/13 ... tic-shock/

I'm one of the people who enjoyed #'s 1 and 2, but this announcement definitely means I'm staying on board.
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The "Mysterious Hooded Lady" who we saw in all the New 52 #1s and not at all since then has been given a name.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2012/01/03 ... s-pandora/

....after peppering her in every on of the #1s, it might have been nice to do something with the character in at least one of the #2, 3, 4 issues......
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She was there, I believe, to be just as her name suggests. As a safety valve for DC in case this new 52 went belly-up fast. Pandora would swoop in, having saved hope within her, and reset the universe back prior to FLASHPOINT.

Once they established her presence in all the books, she could be nicely stored away until needed. Or until someone at DC decided to go the CrossGen route and make her a Danik (Solus) character, popping little DC swirls on all the characters.
:wink:

(God I miss that company and those books) :cry:

EDIT -
OOOOHHHHH, Bob. have you guys done a CrossGen back-issue spot-light? I must go check now. if not ...
8)

EDIT 2 -
I no see it there, but I guess it would be better under the PUBLISHERS SPOTLIGHT anyway, huh?
(hint-hint)
:D
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Perry wrote: EDIT -
OOOOHHHHH, Bob. have you guys done a CrossGen back-issue spot-light? I must go check now. if not ...
8)

EDIT 2 -
I no see it there, but I guess it would be better under the PUBLISHERS SPOTLIGHT anyway, huh?
(hint-hint)
:D
Could work for either. A publisher spotlight could be a overview of all the great titles and there could be BI spotlights on selected series.

I have ALL the Crossgen titles bound into HCs on a shelf!! I loved that publisher.
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BobBretall wrote:
....after peppering her in every on of the #1s, it might have been nice to do something with the character in at least one of the #2, 3, 4 issues......
I'm sure i read somewhere (prbably Bleeding Cool) that her story is due to be told in Stomwatch.
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BobBretall wrote: Could work for either. A publisher spotlight could be a overview of all the great titles and there could be BI spotlights on selected series.

I have ALL the Crossgen titles bound into HCs on a shelf!! I loved that publisher.
If you need any guest commentators I'll volunteer. I never collected Crossgen when they were out (because I'm stupid) and have since gathered up almost every trade I can get (including the Checker reprints). Don't have them all, but have enough to be dangerous. Would love to hear a show about this.
"That...that HAIR!!!" - Deadpool, Deadpool #11
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Paul Nolan wrote:
BobBretall wrote:
....after peppering her in every on of the #1s, it might have been nice to do something with the character in at least one of the #2, 3, 4 issues......
I'm sure i read somewhere (prbably Bleeding Cool) that her story is due to be told in Stomwatch.
That would make sense. I assume they are getting ready for that as they have now named her?
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torchsong wrote: I never collected Crossgen when they were out (because I'm stupid)
:lol:
I wouldn't go that far.
torchsong wrote:and have since gathered up almost every trade I can get (including the Checker reprints).

See? Redemption.
torchsong wrote: Would love to hear a show about this.

A two hour special at least. At the very least. :wink:
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Perry wrote:
Paul Nolan wrote:
BobBretall wrote:
....after peppering her in every on of the #1s, it might have been nice to do something with the character in at least one of the #2, 3, 4 issues......
I'm sure i read somewhere (prbably Bleeding Cool) that her story is due to be told in Stomwatch.
That would make sense. I assume they are getting ready for that as they have now named her?
I read it was Justice League ... so who knows? :)
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Post by Paul Nolan »

Just read a few of my December stack, (thats only just been delivered)

Resurrection Man #4 & Suicide Squad #4 are superb. and that appearance of that Director in Ressie Man, left me with palpitations.
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Post by boshuda »

One of the things I agree with Bob and John most about the NuDCU is that the number one issues were often missed opportunities. I did not like Red Hood and the Outlaws #1, Nightwing #1, Teen Titans #1, or DC Comics Presents: Deadman. There wasn't enough story in any of them to convince me to pick up the next issue. Once I had a chance to read issues 2 and 3 of each of these I had to have DCBS add the issues I hadn't ordered, and continue to pre-order.

If issue #1 of these titles had been more contained and illustrated what made these books unique I might have ordered starting with issue #1. If I hadn't taken advantage of the DCBS "all new 52 @ 50% off" deal I wouldn't have given those titles a chance beyond issue #1.
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What do people think of the new DC logo???

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2012/01/19 ... -identity/
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