New 52 Thoughts

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:28 pm

Just finished the latest week of books. There's a couple you guys haven't done that I have: Supergirl and Nightwing. Did I miss them somewhere? [edit: just realized I also read week 3 -- nevermind. Vacation meant I built up 2 weeks of unread.]

I have to say that suprisingly my favorite books are the Batman Family (-Batwing), the Superman Family, and the DCU Dark Stuff -- esp. Demon Knights -- loved loved loved that book.

Last set of books coming next week and we'll see.

Books I was really into prior to the relaunch, GL Family, JLI, and LoSH I am more lukewarm on now. I will probably stop getting GL and maybe just one of the LoSH titles, but we'll see.

Biggest disappointment was probably Captain Atom. Didn't like the art and miss the time travel aspect of the character.

Of the 35 or so I've read so far, I think there are maybe 10-12 that are definite buys. That's maybe a 25-30% increase over what I was buying before. Still more titles to come though . . .

abysslord · Post by **abysslord** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:51 pm

I only read Batman and Detective basically before the new 52. From reading the solicits I planned on 40 I think, a lot of them sounded interesting to me and I've always wanted to try titles like Wonder Woman or Flash. After reading almost all 52 [the only ones left are ones I know I'm going to like], it looks like I'll be getting 43, pretty close to my pre-read estimate.

In general I feel every book was done at least competently, although Hawk & Dove and Captain Atom stand out as not very good for art and story. But O.M.A.C surprised me, along with Savage Hawkman and Blue Beetle. Who knows, after a few more issues I may drop those but so far I'm interested. The one that stood out on top for me was Batman. Resurrection man was really cool too.

The ones that didn't make it for me after one issue were:

Hawk & Dove: Hated the art, story seemed cliche, Hawk's costume is laughable and both costumes are horrible aged ... or drawn, either one.

Men Of War and Blackhawks: Not a big fan of these type of stories, I'd read G.I. Joe for a war fix.

Static Shock: Seemed aimed a lower age group, too cartoony.

Captain Atom: Very thin premise/story, powers seem kinda boring. Art was a little weak.

Mister Terrific: Maybe the dumbest title ever, story was okay but I just don't care enough to keep reading. Art seemed inconsistent.

Green Arrow: Pretty good first issue, I just don't care about a bow and arrow hero. Every arrow does something cool, I got it all in one issue.

Voodoo: Not a bad story, but I don't care about an alien running from the government story.

Firestorm: I don't want to read about two teenagers arguing about their race or not getting along. I have a feeling that's going to happen a lot.

Overall, I'm very impressed with the relaunch and even though some of the titles were horrible for a brand new reader to comics [like the Legion books], I think if you already read comics you'd know you don't get answers right away and need to just keep reading to figure things out.

I hope DC gives these titles some room to breathe and catch new readers, I mean at least give them a year.

Paul Nolan · Post by **Paul Nolan** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:03 am

I was looking at next weeks batch of #2's.

I'll be getting:-

Animal Man #2 - Felt very grounded and liked the twist
Static Shock #2 - Loved the old school feel
Omac #2 - A complete trip of out there ideas - loved it
Stormwatch #2 - on my standing order - I'm just a wildstorm whore.

Titles I read issue #1 of and won't be getting #2

Swamp Thing - Didn't click at all with me.
Men of War - I don't think it showed enough of itself in issue #1

I'm considering Penguin as I loved Gregg Hurwitz Vegeance of the Moon Knight run.

I'm considering Huntress as it establishes her before her upcoming Birds of Prey appearance (and I loved BoP #1)

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:27 am

We've been having a lot of discussion on the "New52" #1s over on the 1st issue challenge thread....
http://www.comicbookpage.com/forum/view ... hp?p=15228

Thought this will be a good place to carry on the conversation as the books move into #2 & beyond......

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:56 am

My summary of the "New52".....

These 25 made it onto my pull list:
All-Star Western
Animal Man
Aquaman
Batgirl
Batman
Batwoman
Birds of Prey
Catwoman
DC Universe Presents
Demon Knights
Detective Comics
Flash
Green Lantern
Green Lantern Corps
I, Vampire
Justice League
Legion of Super-Heroes
Nightwing
Red Hood & The Outlaws
Resurrection Man
Superboy
Supergirl
Swamp Thing
Teen Titans
Wonder Woman

These 13 are in a holding pattern, I need to read another issue or 2:
Action Comics
Batman&Robin
Batwing
Blue Beetle
Green Arrow
Green Lantern: New Guardians
Justice League Dark
Justice League International
Mister Terrific
Static Shock
Suicide Squad
Superman
Voodoo

These 14 are DROPPED:
Batman: Dark Knight
Blackhawks
Captain Atom
Deathstroke
Firestorm
Frankenstein
Grifter
Hawk&Dove
Legion Lost
Men of War
OMAC
Red Lanterns
Savage Hawkman
Stormwatch

Danscomics · Post by **Danscomics** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:25 am

I'm giving all 52 another month to grab me so none have been dropped. Here are my definite keeps and on the fences.

Definite Regulars:
Action Comics
Aquaman
Batman
Batman & Robin
Birds of Prey
Captain Atom
Catwoman
Detective Comics
Flash
Frankenstein
Green Lantern
Green Lantern Corps
Green Lantern New Guardians
Hawk & Dove
Justice League
Justice League International
Nightwing
Resurrection Man
Suicide Squad
Superman
Teen Titans
Wonder Woman

On the Fence:
All-Star Western
Animal Man
Batgirl
Batman Dark Knight
Batwing
Batwoman
Blackhawks
Blue Beetle
DC Universe Presents
Deathstroke
Demon Knights
Firestorm
Green Arrow
Grifter
I, Vampire
Justice League Dark
Legion of Super-Heroes
Legion Lost
Men of War
Mister Terrific
OMAC
Red Hood & The Outlaws
Red Lanterns
Savage Hawkman
Static Shock
Stormwatch
Superboy
Supergirl
Swamp Thing
Voodoo

keith71_98 · Post by **keith71_98** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:14 am

I've still yet to develop a definitive New 52 pull list. I'm kinda like Bob, there are still some in "a holding pattern" that still need to win a spot as a monthly pull. But there are still some real stinkers that I'm definitely done with.

Solid Books That I Really Enjoyed - I'm On Board:
*Favorites in BOLD

Action Comics #1
Aquaman #1
Batman #1
Justice League #1
All-Star Western #1
Green Lantern #1
Nightwing #1
Batgirl #1
Demon Knights #1
Swamp Thing #1
Justice League Dark #1
Grifter #1
Red Lanterns #1
Detective Comics #1
Deathstroke #1
Batman and Robin #1

On The Fence - Interested but not sold yet:

Animal Man #1
Justice League International #1
Superman #1
Suicide Squad #1
Men of War #1
Savage Hawkman #1
Blackhawks #1
Green Lanterns Corps #1
Blue Beetle #1
Green Arrow #1
Batwing #1
Wonder Woman #1
Resurrection Man #1
Birds of Prey #1

Not Interested, I'm Done :
*Real Stinkers in BOLD

Captain Atom #1
Frankenstein #1
Batman: Dark Knight #1
Firestorm #1
Mister Terrific #1
Flash #1
Hawk and Dove #1
Green Lanterns: New Guardians #1
OMAC #1
Catwoman #1
Red Hood & the Outlaws #1
DC Universe Presents #1
Superboy #1

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:19 am

Today will be the first test for me about what I really want to keep up with. I'm going to try and stay with my old 3-5 books a week method of buying. will be interesting to see what really sticks. I think there are roughly 10-15 of the new 52 that I definitely will not continue with and maybe another 8-10 that I am fully sold on.

What breaks through from that middle tier, I'm not sure yet. Largely it will depend on what else is competing for dollars the weeks they come out.

keith71_98 · Post by **keith71_98** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:36 am

I just knew that the end of September would see a drop in the numder of titles I get. Still I found myself pulling 12 books today. Ready to get some clarity on what I want to keep. My wallet is screaming for mercy!

GABE! · Post by **GABE!** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:50 am

For everyone that thought the ending to Detective #1 was intense, wait until you check out the cliffhanger ending for #2.

keith71_98 · Post by **keith71_98** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:54 am

GABE! wrote:For everyone that thought the ending to Detective #1 was intense, wait until you check out the cliffhanger ending for #2.

You've peaked my interest. May slide it to the top of my stack.

Paul Nolan · Post by **Paul Nolan** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:40 am

Firstly, love the prominence of the text of the covers of the issue 2's. I hope they keep it. There's been too many 'poster' covers around recently

OMAC #2 - not quite as intense as the first issue, but I still a nice rip roaring ride. There was nice layering of Cadmus / Checkmate and a nice placement of Kho as reluctant host.

Static Shock #2 - I don't think I ever recall an vocal impersonation of a film character in a comic book, but there's always a first. I love the villain designs in this book, they're ripe for the articulated action figure market. The mystery of Static's Sister(s) is expanded upon but it does feel like one specific page is pure Rozum in contrast to the 'collaboration' for the rest of the issue.

will read Animal Man #2 and JLI 1 & 2 (just felt the urge to buy it) later.

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:35 pm

Trev wrote:Today will be the first test for me about what I really want to keep up with. I'm going to try and stay with my old 3-5 books a week method of buying. will be interesting to see what really sticks. I think there are roughly 10-15 of the new 52 that I definitely will not continue with and maybe another 8-10 that I am fully sold on.

What breaks through from that middle tier, I'm not sure yet. Largely it will depend on what else is competing for dollars the weeks they come out.

4 books made the cut this week:

JLI
Detective
Swamp Thing
Action

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:29 pm

Trev wrote:
Trev wrote:Today will be the first test for me about what I really want to keep up with. I'm going to try and stay with my old 3-5 books a week method of buying. will be interesting to see what really sticks. I think there are roughly 10-15 of the new 52 that I definitely will not continue with and maybe another 8-10 that I am fully sold on.

What breaks through from that middle tier, I'm not sure yet. Largely it will depend on what else is competing for dollars the weeks they come out.
4 books made the cut this week:

JLI
Detective
Swamp Thing
Action

JLI and Action were good, I'll keep getting those.

Swamp Thing? Pass now. It's clear Animal Man and Swamp Thing go together. I won't be getting either. Just not enough interesting there.

Detective -- fence sitting now. Might pick up the 3rd issue, but depends on what else is out there. I have a feeling Batman and Robin, Batman, Nightwing, and Batgirl will be my Bat Books of choice.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:20 pm

Trev wrote: 4 books made the cut this week:
JLI
Detective
Swamp Thing
Action

I liked Action #2 a LOT more than I liked issue #1....BUT.... What's the deal with 20 pages of story for $3.99.......

Does DC think throwing in a bunch of interview material with Morrison/Morales that I can read on the internet and a preview of a Batman OGN is worth an extra $1?

They need to "hold the line at $2.99" on Action Comics if they are only going to be giving us 20 pages of story content.