1st issue Challenge

IanG · Post by **IanG** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:38 am

BobBretall wrote:Frankenstein: I don't know exactly what it was but it was really rubbing me the wrong way. I liked Ray Palmer in it, but most of the rest of the story just wasn't working for me. Weird, because I think it's the first thing written by Lemire that I've not liked.

I liked the story enough in Frankenstein Agent of S.H.A.D.E. but I think the editor tried to pick an artist that looked liked Lemire's artwork. I liked Ibraim Roberson's artwork a lot more in Frankenstein Creatures of the Unknown. I probably won't continue with this one but if I were to find it cheap down the road I would read it more of it. I heard another podcaster say it was something like "BPRD light" for DC. 3 out of 5 (4 for story and 3 for art).

IanG · Post by **IanG** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:47 am

BadDeacon wrote:Green Lantern - Oh, how the great have fallen. Doug Mahnke's art seemed a lot worse than I have seen in the past, and the story wasn't very compelling. It seems like this book is going for a reaction of "Whoa! A Hal Jordan Sinestro team-up!" than "Whoa! What a good story!"

Green Lantern has almost completely ignored the so called relaunch. I'm glad I at least read "War of the GL's" before or I'd be completely lost. Although I don't know that I could've read yet another GL origin story if they decided to go that route. I think Geoff Johns read that people absolutely loved Sinestro in the GL movie and decided to go with this story angle. GL is still a good overall comic book and I will continue with it. It's not great but it's good fun. 4 out of 5.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:48 am

IanG wrote: I liked the story enough in Frankenstein Agent of S.H.A.D.E. but I think the editor tried to pick an artist that looked liked Lemire's artwork. I liked Ibraim Roberson's artwork a lot more in Frankenstein Creatures of the Unknown. I probably won't continue with this one but if I were to find it cheap down the road I would read it more of it. I heard another podcaster say it was something like "BPRD light" for DC. 3 out of 5 (4 for story and 3 for art).

I agree. If an artist that I really liked was doing this book, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'd give it a 4 on story & 2 on art (just my personal enjoyment factor on the art).

IanG · Post by **IanG** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:58 am

BobBretall wrote:
IanG wrote: I liked the story enough in Frankenstein Agent of S.H.A.D.E. but I think the editor tried to pick an artist that looked liked Lemire's artwork. I liked Ibraim Roberson's artwork a lot more in Frankenstein Creatures of the Unknown. I probably won't continue with this one but if I were to find it cheap down the road I would read it more of it. I heard another podcaster say it was something like "BPRD light" for DC. 3 out of 5 (4 for story and 3 for art).
I agree. If an artist that I really liked was doing this book, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'd give it a 4 on story & 2 on art (just my personal enjoyment factor on the art).

Yeah I was leaning towards a 2 on the art but decided on a 3 in the end. The creature design for the mummy character was laughably bad. I feel like there must be a ton of great comic book artists out there who would be great for this book but they are probably too slow. It seems like DC was leaning a lot more towards speed for the art for this relaunch. A lot of the art I have seen thus far from the realunch has been ho-hum.

Frank Castle · Post by **Frank Castle** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:03 am

Batman #1 - I think I could get into this book more as the arc goes on. The art was pretty good but not as good as I wanted it to be with all the excitement of Capullo coming onto the book.

Birds of Prey #1 - I really enjoyed it and I've never read any BOP. Watched the bad tv show back in the day though. Art was slick, story was fun, good start to the series.

Blue Beetle #1 - Wasn't terrible, just not for me. Not a BB fan, even with him being in the Brave and the Bold toon, I still don't care for him.

Captain Atom #1 - Cap Atom seemed to powerful and I didn't get hooked. I love Freddie's art but this wasn't his best either. Kind of disappointed by this, wanted to like it!!

Catwoman #1 - This gets green for the boobs and boobs and boobs. And the title was clever and it spawned a fantastic issue from The Gutters.

Deadman #1 - Not bad but didn't hook me, never read the character before and this didn't change my feelings.

The Legion of Super-Heroes #1 - Acquired taste here, I didn't like it but I can see plenty of people loving the hell out of this book.

Nightwing #1 - I enjoyed this for probably just the art and costume. Interested to see the arc.

Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 - Well, Starfire was interesting. Not the little hero I remember from the Teen Titans and Toon!! I'm a fan of Rocafort but really, nothing happens in this issue.

Supergirl #1 - Enjoyed the art more than the story but I think as a full arc this could be a good little book.

And looking at the ipad, I missed Wonder Woman. Hmmmmmm, I'll have to get it tonight. More issues from week 4 today and still no GL books!!

BadDeacon · Post by **BadDeacon** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:16 pm

IanG wrote:
Green Lantern has almost completely ignored the so called relaunch. I'm glad I at least read "War of the GL's" before or I'd be completely lost. Although I don't know that I could've read yet another GL origin story if they decided to go that route. I think Geoff Johns read that people absolutely loved Sinestro in the GL movie and decided to go with this story angle. GL is still a good overall comic book and I will continue with it. It's not great but it's good fun. 4 out of 5.

I read Green Lantern fanatically through Blackest Night, then dropped them all. I wasn't confused at all by this title, I'm ok with "Sinestro is Green Lantern now, not Hal". Not knowing the immediate back story wasn't a problem for me, the story just didn't grab me at all.

comicm · Post by **comicm** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:38 am

My latest rankings after week 3. Sticking with all so far but if I were to drop any it would be the lower 3/5s

(5/5)
OMAC
Batgirl
Resurrection Man
Batwoman
Blue Beetle
Animal Man
Wonder Woman
Supergirl
Frankenstein Agent of S.H.A.D.E.

(4/5)
Catwoman
Nightwing
Green Lantern
Red Hood and the Outlaws
Detective Comics
Batman
Birds of Prey
Men of War
Suicide Squad
Superboy
Stormwatch
Green Lantern Corps
Swamp Thing
Action Comics
Red Lanterns
DC Comics Presents: Deadman
Demon Knights
Justice League International
Mister Terrific
Grifter
Justice League
Hawk and Dove
Batwing

(3/5)
Captain Atom
Green Arrow
Batman and Robin
Deathstroke
Static Shock
Legion of Super-heroes
Legion Lost

deeplots · Post by **deeplots** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:06 am

I got a bunch of the DC #1s. And Brilliant.

Aquaman - This was an awesome comic. I think I will definitely be sticking with this. I've never read much Aquaman before and only really know him from the Justice League cartoons, but I felt this helped me get to know who he was.

I, Vampire - I was really surprised by this. The art is what first drew me in, loved that. The writing was good as well.

Justice League Dark - I really enjoyed this as well. It's on my "likely going to keep list"

The Flash - Loved this book as well. I have read a little bit of the Flash before, and had thought it was okay. But this felt really fresh to me. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.

Hawkman - I enjoyed this. Thought it was good. Not sure if I'll stick with it though.

Voodoo - I really loved the art in this. The rest though...not really my thing. I think what really made me not like this, is that I'm not sure who I'm supposed to be rooting for in this comic, if there is even a hero in the book. Might come back to it if I start hearing amazing things, but this first issue didn't impress me.

Not DC

Brilliant - Thought this was good. I'm intrigued anyways.

Ghostbusters - I'm a sucker for the Ghostbusters. I watch the first movie every halloween. Not surprisingly I really enjoyed this. IDW is killing it for me.

I can only keep about 8 books because of money reasons. I'm not sure what I will be keeping for sure, other than a couple. Interesting note though, my wife is new to all of these comics and has only read a few before. The comic she enjoyed the most of all the new #1s that just came out? Ultimate Spider-Man, because it really introduced you to the character, because it had to, it couldn't lean too much on what people knew previously. I think some of the DC books really dropped the ball on that, because I didn't feel they really drew me in to who the character was.

IanG · Post by **IanG** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:57 am

BadDeacon wrote:
IanG wrote:
Green Lantern has almost completely ignored the so called relaunch. I'm glad I at least read "War of the GL's" before or I'd be completely lost. Although I don't know that I could've read yet another GL origin story if they decided to go that route. I think Geoff Johns read that people absolutely loved Sinestro in the GL movie and decided to go with this story angle. GL is still a good overall comic book and I will continue with it. It's not great but it's good fun. 4 out of 5.
I read Green Lantern fanatically through Blackest Night, then dropped them all. I wasn't confused at all by this title, I'm ok with "Sinestro is Green Lantern now, not Hal". Not knowing the immediate back story wasn't a problem for me, the story just didn't grab me at all.

I understand you aren't confused by the story. I am hardly an expert on Green Lantern myself having only come back to it recently. I was just writing about why I liked it as compared to you not liking it. I go with philosophy of "only read what you like." There's only 51 other new titles to choose from in DC.

Frank Castle · Post by **Frank Castle** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:19 am

Blackhawks - Not bad but not for me!

All-Star Western - Good book, love the creative team and the art was fantastic. Going to be a good arc!!

Aquaman - Color me surprised! I enjoyed this as much as everyone else. I loved that they took to the jokes head on and poked at fun at them.

I, Vampire - didn't enjoy the art, writing was solid but it reminds me that I don't care about Vampires. Even with Josh on the book, I just don't care.

Justice League Dark - Another one not for me, but I know a few people that will love this one.

The Flash - My first flash book and I really enjoyed it. Fun to see the writer, artist, colorist are the same 2 people!

Hawkman - Tan's art was great.

Voodoo - I think it is safe to say that the new DC is adult. This book is labeled T for teen but it isn't. Can a teen go into a strip club? this issue was just all boobs and I guess it did it's job because I'm intrigued for the next issue.

Superman - So, Perez is pretty wordy huh.

Firestorm - Love the creative team on this book.

Teen Titans - Not for me, just not the TT I want to read.

Batman: The Dark Knight - didn't I just read DK #1 a few months ago

Anyways, finch can draw the s#$t out of Bats!

And making up for last week's miss on WW#1:

Wonder Woman - Good first issue, liking Cliff's art and Brian's story!!

IanG · Post by **IanG** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:23 am

deeplots wrote:I can only keep about 8 books because of money reasons. I'm not sure what I will be keeping for sure, other than a couple. Interesting note though, my wife is new to all of these comics and has only read a few before. The comic she enjoyed the most of all the new #1s that just came out? Ultimate Spider-Man, because it really introduced you to the character, because it had to, it couldn't lean too much on what people knew previously. I think some of the DC books really dropped the ball on that, because I didn't feel they really drew me in to who the character was.

There's nothing negative with getting 8 books a month. What if the 5.5 million or so people who bought the Iron Man 2 DVD also got 8 books a month. That would add 44 million units sold to the 5 or 6 million currently being sold per month. I know it will never happen like that but it puts it in some perspective. I've heard John of this podcast talk about a similar scenario a few times before. Also, it's always interesting to hear what non-regular comic book readers think of the DC's new 52.

deeplots · Post by **deeplots** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:32 am

IanG wrote:There's nothing negative with getting 8 books a month. What if the 5.5 million or so people who bought the Iron Man 2 DVD also got 8 books a month. That would add 44 million units sold to the 5 or 6 million currently being sold per month. I know it will never happen like that but it puts it in some perspective. I've heard John of this podcast talk about a similar scenario a few times before. Also, it's always interesting to hear what non-regular comic book readers think of the DC's new 52.

I never really thought about it in that way, that buying even a small amount of books is good. I guess sometimes it feels like some other comics people almost look down on you if you don't get a whole ton of books (one of the reasons I stopped posting on other forums and found somewhere new). I definitely feel like this podcast really lets you know that it doesn't matter how many comics you buy, as long as you have fun.

And in other news... So far my wife has really loved Batman. And liked Superboy quite a bit as well. She thought Flash and Aquaman were okay. Most of the others that I got she wasn't too impressed with actually. Not surprisingly, she really felt like most of them didn't introduce you to the characters.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:12 pm

deeplots wrote: I never really thought about it in that way, that buying even a small amount of books is good. I guess sometimes it feels like some other comics people almost look down on you if you don't get a whole ton of books (one of the reasons I stopped posting on other forums and found somewhere new). I definitely feel like this podcast really lets you know that it doesn't matter how many comics you buy, as long as you have fun.

Exactly! We know not everyone can afford (or has the time) to read tons of comics, but if you love the comics you are reading, then we're a place to come talk about them!

PLUS, you can live vicariously through the talk of some of those books you don't get

abysslord · Post by **abysslord** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:33 pm

BobBretall wrote: Batman #1 - the single best Batman comic I've read in 5 years.

I agree. I can't think of any way to write a #1 issue better. I've yet to read even an average Synder story, they have all been top notch.

abysslord · Post by **abysslord** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:50 pm

Paul Nolan wrote:PIGS #1 - before reading this book, something niggling in the back of my head this was going to be the next Walking Dead / Chew style pick up readers each issue type book. After reading issue #1 I still absolutely believe that. It was well crafted with intelligent references to the russians in cuba, and had possibly the best final page this year.

This emphatically goes onto my pull list.

I read this and gave it a try, and I agree ... I liked it a lot. For some reason I first thought this took place in '62 from the solicits and that turned me off, I guess I read it wrong.

So anyway, very good book but I can't help but wonder if their choice of title was bad. I guess it gets people's attention but I don't know, it'll grow on me I guess.