LET'S TALK: DC 2.0

GABE! · Post by **GABE!** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:25 pm

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/15/ ... tic-shock/

There have been some creative changes on the DC New 52 Relaunch, such as Marco Rudy being dropped completely off Suicide Squad and Roger Robinson off Mister Terrific. But this doesn’t seem to have been of choice and has up till now concerned artists.

Yesterday, Bleeding Cool was told that John Rozum, best known as creator of Xombi for DC/Milestone, a personal favourite of mine, had walked off Static Shock. We asked him for comment. He has now replied, confirming the story, saying;

I have resigned from Static Shock. Before any speculation starts the decision was entirely mine. My issues for leaving had nothing to do with the character or with DC Comics. I plan to continue working for DC long into the future and am developing new projects for them at this time.

He also stated

I maintain a belief that the folks at DC also share a belief that Static has a lot of potential as part of the DCnU and that they would like the character to remain true to his origins, and established nature.

And to a wider audience;

I’m also open to any other offers, so if you are in the position to give me work, please let me know

Interesting to read that he left the book on his own, but then he asks work.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:51 pm

TNPredsFan wrote:
torchsong wrote: Suicide Squad #1 - I think you know where this is going. They put Amanda Waller on a diet! Seriously? Come on, people! She was "The Wall!" She was one of the few people who wasn't afraid of Batman! Heck, sometimes she scared him! And she was always large and in charge, and now that's gone.
I'm with you, Al. I was seriously hacked off when I saw they had made the Wall a runway model.

Here's some response to that:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/15/ ... e-squad-1/

And already people are calling foul, accusing DC of body fascism, exhibiting a desire to show only the most stereotypically attractive bodies on the page, presenting an unrealistic aspiration in the minds of the impressionable and firming up the concept that the only worthwhile woman is a thin woman.

However it could just be DC trying to align their screen and comics together and showing a younger Amanda Waller compared to the version on screen, someone she will become?

Writer of Suicide Squad Adam Glass, who also works on the TV show Supernatural, disagreed with the criticism, pointing out to Bleeding Cool that this was a rebooted, younger Amanda Waller at the start of her career. “Amanda Waller is not defined by her size but by her attitude and she still has plenty of that.”

torchsong · Post by **torchsong** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:49 am

Adam Glass is full of it.

"Amanda Waller is not defined by her size but by her attitude and she still has plenty of that.”

Great, so she's just like every other woman in the DCU now.

I'm not saying she has to be a blob, but the point of Amanda Waller was her size coupled with her attitude. Life had dealt her a (bleep) hand, and as she aged she gained weight. That happens. That's real. It was refreshing to see in a comic. The fact that powered heroes were actually scared of this perfectly normal woman was part of what made her all the more impressive. I miss the old run-ins with Max Lord and Batman she used to have, for example.

And if you want to tell me her nickname "The Wall" was primarily because of her last name, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, wholesale.

That's gone now. They might as well have people calling her "Mandy".

I get that they want to reconcile what we see in the comics with what we see on the screen, and I was happy to see Bassett, an actress I love, paired up with the role of a comic character I love. I know "why" they did what they did, but I don't have to like it.

It's the first really negative thing I've had to say about an otherwise positive outlook on the New 52, so hopefully it'll be an isolated incident.

And yes, I'm still gonna pick up and read SS #1 to give them a chance to show me it really doesn't matter.

boshuda · Post by **boshuda** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:48 am

BobBretall wrote:
Trev wrote: Sounds like a return to Claremont style storytelling, which would be cool. Sometimes it feels like it moves slowly, but I always feel like I come away satisfied.
Are you talking "good Claremont" from the 1st half of his career when he built up the X-Men franchise, as opposed to "evil Claremont" from the mid-90s onward when he wrote comics so mired in continuity and multiple characters that he drove me away from the X-Men franchise?

I don't remember where I heard it from, but I remember something about Claremont doing the continuity mess on purpose to piss off enough fans that Marvel would be forced to stop making him do crossovers. Unfortunately what happened was a lot of people bought comics at the same time and it looked like it was the mess of continuity and constant crossovers that drove the sales.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:07 pm

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=34465

The switched up creator count on DC Comics New 52 titles is now up to two. Just days after word broke that writer John Rozum was leaving the new "Static Shock" monthly, Blog@Newsarama is reporting that JT Krul will no longer serve as story man for "Green Arrow." Starting with December's issue #4, the adventures of Oliver Queen will be penned by Keith Giffen along with current series artist Dan Jurgens.

The news came via early December solicitations from the publisher, though the blog did confirm with DC that the change was permanent. Krul will continue to write the "Captain Atom" monthly.

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:43 pm

BobBretall wrote:http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=34465

The switched up creator count on DC Comics New 52 titles is now up to two. Just days after word broke that writer John Rozum was leaving the new "Static Shock" monthly, Blog@Newsarama is reporting that JT Krul will no longer serve as story man for "Green Arrow." Starting with December's issue #4, the adventures of Oliver Queen will be penned by Keith Giffen along with current series artist Dan Jurgens.

The news came via early December solicitations from the publisher, though the blog did confirm with DC that the change was permanent. Krul will continue to write the "Captain Atom" monthly.

Interesting. Green Arrow was my biggest disappointment with the first week of books, so this change isn't necessary a bad change.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:56 pm

HassanT wrote: Interesting. Green Arrow was my biggest disappointment with the first week of books, so this change isn't necessary a bad change.

Huzzah! Something for us to agree on. GA was not my biggest disappointment (that was probably a tie between OMAC & Men of War), but it wasn't a book I cared for very much. John, OTOH, loved Green Arrow.

I don't think what I didn't like about the book (the young guy "Smallville-GA" look) can be fixed by a new writer though.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:57 pm

torchsong wrote: And if you want to tell me her nickname "The Wall" was primarily because of her last name, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, wholesale. That's gone now. They might as well have people calling her "Mandy".

Hey, you just thought up the newest DC comic: "Mandy Waller, Model for Hire"

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:23 pm

BobBretall wrote:
HassanT wrote: Interesting. Green Arrow was my biggest disappointment with the first week of books, so this change isn't necessary a bad change.
Huzzah! Something for us to agree on. GA was not my biggest disappointment (that was probably a tie between OMAC & Men of War), but it wasn't a book I cared for very much. John, OTOH, loved Green Arrow.

I don't think what I didn't like about the book (the young guy "Smallville-GA" look) can be fixed by a new writer though.

You make it sound like you and I don't agree on many things

The one thing I noticed on these new DC books is that people like and dislike different books. And I think that is a good thing.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:12 pm

HassanT wrote: You make it sound like you and I don't agree on many things

As it turns out, you have the gift of prophecy and know what I'll like before I do (e.g. Flashpoint).

What will I like from this week's books?

torchsong · Post by **torchsong** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:33 am

Green Arrow's on my list, but I won't get to read it for a couple weeks yet (crazy DCBS monthly!!!). I was okay with Krul, but I think my man-love for all things Giffen is pretty much public knowledge.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:52 pm

Got my DCBS box & read all of Week 2...... I've now read 27 of the 52 and it looks like this:

10: Added to pull list
10: Dropped
7: in limbo waiting for a later decision

So I'm 50-50 on add/drops so far......

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:07 pm

BobBretall wrote:
HassanT wrote: You make it sound like you and I don't agree on many things
As it turns out, you have the gift of prophecy and know what I'll like before I do (e.g. Flashpoint).

What will I like from this week's books?

My guess is that you will like Batman and Wonder Woman. I have a feeling that you are not going to like Captain Atom.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:57 pm

HassanT wrote: My guess is that you will like Batman and Wonder Woman. I have a feeling that you are not going to like Captain Atom.

If I'd have guessed for the 9/14 books, I'd have thought I would not have liked Superboy, but it ended up being one of my favorites. But, I'm with you in that I'm not expecting to like Captain Atom, but maybe they'll surprise me!

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:51 pm

HassanT wrote: I have a feeling that you are not going to like Captain Atom.

You were right........

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